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		<title>Comments, Trees and Celebration&#8230; It&#8217;s not just for Christians</title>
		<link>http://leavingreligion.com/2009/11/comments-trees-and-celebration-its-not-just-for-christians/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Curious how many of you out there have had a similar experience. Any things you would now like to claim as your own, and not as a result of God randomly choosing to make it happen for you?”
I’m curious to know why you are curious about this.  Are you seeking validation?
Also, now that you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Curious how many of you out there have had a similar experience. Any things you would now like to claim as your own, and not as a result of God randomly choosing to make it happen for you?”</p>
<p>I’m curious to know why you are curious about this. <img src="../wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" /> Are you seeking validation?</p>
<p>Also, now that you are an atheist, are you still going to take Christmas day off this year? What about the exchanging of gifts? Are you still going to have a tree and all, or are you in boycott mode? Just curious <img src="../wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p>
<p>Mark</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a comment I received, and it got me thinking about why people seem to think that having a tree is solely a Christian tradition, and why taking Christmas Day off is considered celebrating the Christian religion.  So, let me answer the comment above point by point.</p>
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<li>I&#8217;m curious, because I&#8217;m sure there are others out there who have gone through the same thing I have and have stories to share.  I&#8217;ve been proven correct.  I don&#8217;t need validation for what I think about things coming together as I&#8217;ve been on both sides of the fence and have hard proof through my own experience.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m not an atheist.  I have been decently clear on this point on this blog.  I don&#8217;t believe there is one guy in the sky, nor do I believe the Bible is the perfect word from this guy in the sky.  I believe the Bible is a historical text, at best.  Now, that being said, I&#8217;m not sure that there is nothing out there either.  I&#8217;m not convinced that there isn&#8217;t some sort of energy that connects all of us.  I&#8217;m not convinced there is, either.</li>
<li>Yes, I will be taking Christmas Day off this year&#8230; it is a nationwide holiday&#8230; one that my Company pays me to take off.  It is a great time to spend with family and friends, and I treat it as such.</li>
<li>Again, yes, I will have a tree.  Trees and evergreen and holly, etc. are NOT just Christian traditions and in fact many started well before Christianity as a celebration of the winter solstice.  Many pagan religions also used evergreen trimmings.  The Romans used holly wreaths and evergreen clippings in a ritual to celebrate Saturn. (http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_tree.htm)</li>
<li>Yes, I will exchange gifts, meaningful gifts.  I like to give gifts all year round, I find that at this time of year, I&#8217;m able to see members of my family that I don&#8217;t see any other time and it is a great time to give them gifts in person.  Giving gifts is not something that is just for Christians, you know.</li>
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<p>So, I&#8217;m curious Mark (and any others who feel the same way he does about this topic), do you know that you aren&#8217;t even celebrating Christ&#8217;s birthday in December&#8230; as it has been pretty well agreed that he was most likely born in the spring?  Will you admit that there are MANY celebrations that take place this time of year that started well before Christmas that are as celebratory as Christmas is?</p>
<p>Why are some Christians so up tight about other celebrations taking place?  They have been going on for many centuries&#8230; before Christ was on the planet.  Let everyone celebrate, enjoy their families, enjoy the turn of the season, enjoy their religious traditions.  I see the joy that my Christian friends get from the holiday, and it is equal to the joy I get from the holiday.  Why is it that some Christians think they are the only people on the planet who get to celebrate something in the winter?  Get over yourselves&#8230; maybe you&#8217;ll be able to celebrate more if you just focus on what it is you&#8217;re doing, and not so much on what others are doing.</p>
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		<title>Get paid to take on a pet for those who leave during the rapture!</title>
		<link>http://leavingreligion.com/2009/08/get-paid-to-take-on-a-pet-for-those-who-leave-during-the-rapture/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why did I not think of this&#8230; seriously!?
Check out the BoingBoing post about it.
Excerpt from the original:
We are a group of dedicated animal lovers, and atheists. Each
Eternal Earth-Bound Pet representative is a confirmed atheist, and as such will still be here on Earth after you&#8217;ve received your reward.  Our network of animal activists are committed to step in when [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did I not think of this&#8230; seriously!?</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://leavingreligion.com/wp-content/plugins/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ib2luZ2JvaW5nLm5ldC8yMDA5LzA4LzI3L2F0aGVpc3RzLXdob2xsLXRha2UuaHRtbA==">the BoingBoing post </a>about it.</p>
<p>Excerpt from the <a href="http://leavingreligion.com/wp-content/plugins/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL2V0ZXJuYWwtZWFydGhib3VuZC1wZXRzLmNvbS9Ib21lX1BhZ2UuaHRtbA==">original</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 20px; font-family: georgia,'times new roman',times,serif;"><span style="color: #6e3134;"><span style="color: #822328;"><span style="color: #822328;">We are a group of dedicated animal lovers, and atheists. Each<br />
Eternal Earth-Bound Pet representative is a confirmed atheist, and as such will still be here on Earth after you&#8217;ve received your reward.  Our network of animal activists are committed to step in when you step up to Jesus.</span></span></span></span></p></blockquote>
<p>This is pure awesome!</p>
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		<title>Children&#8217;s Book Introduces Atheism</title>
		<link>http://leavingreligion.com/2009/06/childrens-book-introduces-atheism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow&#8230; I never thought I&#8217;d see the day.  But, here it is.  Published in 2007, Onion Breath is the story of two kids who are picky eaters.  It introduces kids to atheism &#8211; the authors consider it a book that introduces kids to the concept that there are people out there who aren&#8217;t religions&#8230; but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I never thought I&#8217;d see the day.  But, here it is.  Published in 2007, <a href="http://leavingreligion.com/wp-content/plugins/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcmVlLXByZXNzLXJlbGVhc2UuY29tL25ld3MvMjAwNzEwLzExOTMwOTQ3ODcuaHRtbA==">Onion Breath</a> is the story of two kids who are picky eaters.  It introduces kids to atheism &#8211; the authors consider it a book that introduces kids to the concept that there are people out there who aren&#8217;t religions&#8230; but is in no way a how-to book for atheism.</p>
<p><a href="http://leavingreligion.com/wp-content/plugins/feed-statistics.php?url=aHR0cDovL2Ftem4uY29tLzE2MDQwMjQ4Nzk="><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-156" title="Onion Breath Book" src="http://leavingreligion.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Onion-Breath-Book.jpg" alt="Onion Breath Book" width="335" height="335" /></a></p>
<p>This book is available on Amazon (click on the image above to check it out).  It has been used by various secular camps, and is something that the publisher and authors are trying to get all libraries to carry.</p>
<p>I need to get a copy so I can read the entire thing.  Anyone out there seen/read this book?  Would be interested in hearing opinions.</p>
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